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Hey Scott. Great piece, You and I have been talking about this recently. Or maybe, more accurately, I’ve been incessantly blathering to you about consciousness as an emergent phenomenon like a gnat buzzing around your ear.

I just wanted to let you know that I do recognize the problem you’re pointing out, and I think you’re absolutely right to raise it. Anyone with an operational neocortex should. As I understand it, your argument is structured like this:

Consciousness is known first-personally.

Every other emergent phenomenon is knowable from the third person.

Therefore consciousness is ontologically different.

As you know, I ultimately land on the other side of the river from you. But your essay made me realize that our disagreement may be even more specific than I had appreciated. What I mean is that I wonder whether (3) necessarily follows from (1) and (2), or whether this is more fundamentally a question of epistemology than ontology.

In other words, does a unique mode of access necessarily imply a unique mode of existence? I obviously lean heavily toward “no,” while you’re are  in the “yes” camp. And let me just say, you  may very well be right. I just haven’t yet become convinced that consciousness gets to be the one ontological aristocrat while everything else in the universe has to fly coach.

Maybe that’s simply my inductive bias. Every other genuinely novel phenomenon we’ve discovered, from chemistry to life to culture, eventually found a home within the same natural world, even if it required an entirely new level of description. My instinct is to keep betting on that pattern until reality forces me to stop.

In any case, I genuinely enjoyed the article. It gave me a lot to think about and I’ve really enjoyed talking with you.

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